Story of Khale 2-2008 NG Tank Awards

So i was thinking, maybe we should join the cool kids and do some horrible anime voice acting and some poorly drawn scribbles so we can become popular.

You know, I almost spat my cum on the keyboard when I saw that AlmightyHans's 'Big NG Package' got a score of 4.12. I mean, WHAT THE FUCK?

Happy Belated, brother. Yeeeah, I saw Iron Man yesterday - it was pure awesomeness. Maybe my favorite Marvel movie out. I looooved it. So badass.

I totally agree with you on vid submissions. It makes me really sad when someone makes a video of them doing something random and it has no real production - no camera angles, no sets other than their bedroom, and no real editing - and then they get daily feature and a 4+ score...I could do that!! I'm an actual video/film producer/editor and I work a freakish amount at that...but if I'm going to put stuff online - it's not coming to newgrounds. It's a flash site!

Anywho, can't wait for your newest submission to come out - I'm so curious as to what it's about exactly...haha - though I'm in it. :D

seriously, while you were gone.

THATS NOT LEDGER

I kinda have to agree with you about recent movies. Only, I don't know what exactly to say about it.

Well happy birthday Toad.

-Bolt

I think people have to understand that Newgrounds is more or less visited by people because of video game/anime satire. It's the target audience.

On TV, your ratings will be high if you appeal to a certain demographic and target audience.

It's the same here.

Your scores will be high if you appeal to the target audience.

For instance, lets say the target audience comes here due to video game satire. Then years later they develop an interest in animation. Shortly after they start making flash of their own. Of course because they were pulled in by this parody content, no doubt they'll want to make some of their own. It's called inspiration.

It's a cycle that can't be broken. It's just the kind of people the community is built up of. Newgrounds has been doing satire since its conception.

Not to say that the deserving content is overlooked. Content that very much deserves it isn't being kicked aside in the score department.

This kind of content is just developed by your everyday normal folk who want to make these kind of cartoons because they appeal to THEM. Which in the process it ironically appeals to the Newgrounds audience unintentionally.

I dislike seeing that my ABC work gets high scores here, but honestly there's nothing you can do about that. If it appeals, it succeeds.

Such is Newgrounds.

Form your flash page it looks like you yourself started off with StarWars parodies, its a growing process, now that you've settled and are creating original pieces it can sometimes get hard to remember back. I find myself doing it all the time, getting frustrated with high scoring sprite games based on Mario, but then I have to remind myself that my first NG game was a DragonBall Z game (cringe). It only becomes a problem when long standing Flash artists still rely on the crutches of parody of popular culture, which I see is part of your point. Oh well I guess its just a double edged sword...

Oh, and happy birthday ol'Squeaky.

happy belated birthday, On a note classic panel there. Killing joke, old edition (Not the new special edition with completely different color schemes and the joker crying red). yeah I am that big of a nerd. It had a solid story anyway. ummm did I forget to say happy birthday?

Im Going to leave a controversial comment.

and then say Happy Birthday C:

I can be nice too :3

I SENT YOU SONIC'S DECAPITATED HEAD as a birthday present. :D no more parodies of him for a while.

... Happy Birthday?

I'm glad to see that someone else noticed the 4.0 and above trend...

Maybe Newgrounds voting system should be changed to a ten based system.

well, i cant tell.i agree as well, that ng is on a state of ''problemz'' because of the popular stuff getting front, and original stuff not. while i support video games parody movies (heck, i wanted to make one)... i think it should aim on humour, like OUR MARIO, or TSAH 2, or 1, or orange box... or er halomen.. and kirby. yet, sprites are a low attempt on efforts, talkin about flash!

(now, IF.. sprites movie contains original sprites, and looks like a work with kick ass, humour.. and great style.. with art! well, then i will like it. but i havent seen many of this type until last year)

soo..

movies need originallity.
great drawings.
or at least

a fun ,full of humour scrit.
or a good scenario!

anyways, i think videos must stop being here. k?

and iron bad rocked. glad you agreed.

sooo.. u hate brawl easy 4.00 scores like i DO?

and happy mothers day.

and happy bday. i sented your xboxs! alots!1one :P

also AUDIO team?

a-team?

do we get suits, and gunz? hah

What about Tankmen Infinity? That was garbage and a HALF man.

Dude,no Offense,but those 2 Flashes were quite good.Sure the Score was A little overrated,but i still liked them.Stop being so hard on your reviews <_<
Oh,And i loved karma too.Going to my favs.

Lot of overrated-ness going on the last year.

Yeah, pretty much since last Clock Day everything has gotten a higher score than normal and almost nothing gets blammed that should. It also causes higher scores for better movies. Kinda sucks, but I guess that's just the NG of today.

It's crazy how many 4.00+ movies there are a day now when it was MAYBE one a day if that 1 1/2 years ago. I don't even think it's that there's that much better stuff, either. It's just the way people are voting.

Jeez, you're fat!

Hahaha, Happy 28th Birthday, am I high or low? Anyways, happy B-Day man.

On the topic of the overatted-ness, yeah, pretty gay, but I don't worry about it too much. If Tom and the gang don't mind, I don't see a lot of reason for me too. I just gave those movies low reviewing scores and posted a bit on the Today's Top 5 posts. I would only be pissed if I missed out an award, which even then it wouldn't matter much, besides a loss of some exposure.

I hear you, Squeak ol' pal. Now while I think RubberNinja had a pretty valid point, but he kept talking about satire, and calling parodies satire, and they're not the same thing, so that really got on my nerves.

A parody is a poor imitation intended to grab laughs based on the mockery. But the key there is "poor imitation." That's the definition. By taking just any old video game character and making him do silly things irrelevant to the game itself. you're creating humour with a video game character, but you ARE NOT parodying. Too many people confuse this.

Satire is when you're goal is to point out flaws by blowing them out of proportion. Humour is not the primary objective to satire, it is simply a result of the method. The intent is to bring attention, serious contemplative attention, to real faults that should be addressed.

I have a huge problem when people use similar terms that are not synonyms as synonyms. Such and the mountains of idiots on NewGrounds who vomit forth the new hip buzz-word of today, random, when they clearly have no idea what it really means. But that's a text wall of bitching for another occasion.

I personally don't find parody funny. Parody is stuff like Superhero Movie, or Meet the Spartans, where the jokes are based right on the films they're spoofing. Satire on the other hand is something I've very fond of. The line is very fine, however. Catch 22 is a fantastic example of a satire. So is most of the work of Oscar Wilde. Things such as Spy Hard, or Space Balls blur the line of parody and satire whoever. The general film is satire, but there are moments that are directly parody certain films.

Enough of that, Happy Birthday!

You mean you didn't get the dildos I sent you? Fuck, I am never using ups again >:(

Happy birthday toadyman

Ur shiny

So long

and thanks for all the fish.

Happy belated birthday!

Its mine this wednesday, half my friends have seen iron man so we'll probably end up watching Speed Racer (!!). After that, its a meal then drunken antics.

As for the top 50/scoring thing, fanboys do tend to vote unfairly on video game submissions. If 'Brawl Taunts' had brackenwood quality animation you'd still get a few idiots going "WAHHH SONIK ISANT A CHEEP CHARECTER" and voting 0. Which erm, kinda balances things out actually because anything about smash bros or sonic or naruto is the holy grail of flash animation to these people apparently, hence the massive scores.

I've seen a lot of original content get appreciated recently though, and pico day was awesome, so yeah i wouldnt worry about it too much : )

If this isn´t a pic from "batman- the killing joke" (1988). Great comic.

Happy birthday! And I agree with you on the parodies. There are good parodies, and then...... there's "Irod Bad" and the like.

Oh, and mad skills on finishing the previous "so long and thanks for all the fish" song.

hahaha, I think it'll be fun when NG scores rise so high that anything that would get a 4.25 (which includes an awful lot right now) would instead get a perfect score of 5.00.

Eventually, once a number of animations got these scores, and getting 5.00 became an ordinary happening, an extra voting scheme would have to be implemented on submissions with 4.50 or higher so that the vote bar on that high level of quality went to like, 7. Or something.

Of course, some people would always vote lower, so a 'perfect' 5.00 would be impossible, but I do think that pretty soon, definitely within the year, average front page scores will be up in the 4.60s/80s.

Besides all that nonsense, happy birthday.

If you're livin' in a bubble and you haven't got a care
Well, you're gonna be in trouble 'cause we're gonna steal your air
'Cause what you got is what we need and all we do is dirty deeds
We're the Spaceballs! Watch out, 'cause we're the Spaceballs
We're the masters of space
Hey, don't mess around with the Spaceballs.
Uh!
Going cruisin' in a spaceship, we're so good at being bad
We'll destroy your little planet if you ever get us mad
We're mothers of the galaxy
You better scatter when you see
The Spaceballs! Watch out, we're the Spaceballs
We're the masters of space
Say what? Don't mess around with the Spaceballs.
Watch out!
We're mothers of the galaxy
We're gonna take the air you breathe
Hahahahahaha!
Oh! Spaceballs!
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Do-do-do-do-don't mess around with the Spaceballs.
Yo! Watch out!
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Watch out!
We've got a bossin' little ship
So you better watch your lip
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You may think that you are bad
But believe you can be had
By the Spaceballs!
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Hehehehahahahaha!

Squeak, you misinterpret poor. Of course it has to be humourous. By poor, I mean in terms of technical quality.

Webster's defines parody with exactly what I said. A poor imitation. That doesn't mean the content cannot be funny, but it should look and feel like a lower quality version of the original work.

I never said parody can't be funny, I just said I personally don't find it funny. Also, I'd never trust a "Google Definition" that game up. Much of the content on the internet like that exists because of contemporary bastardizations of terms, like people calling homosexuals faggots. I prefer to stick with texts that give the true original meanings of terms.

Anyway, that was a pedantic rant I left anyway, and didn't really relate in any tangible way to what was being said.

On the topic of overrated Flash movies, they've been around for ages. People see things they can instantly recognize, and thus don't have to think about, and click 5. Another thing is people who incessantly polish their work with an abundance of details and shading. Sure those things are nice, but people just see them and say, AWESOME, because they don't know enough to realize that a polished turd is still just a turd.

:C

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Fuckyes, give up now! it's futile.

SqueakyToad. I apologize. My birthday present to you.... was.... *tear*.... disdain WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Seriously, less of me saying dumb things, more of happy birthday Squeak!

Umm...yes Squeaky,i think you do critics very well,that i cannot argue.
It's just sometimes you get over the edge and say Unecessary stuff.
Oh well,can't complain(Flash By Raulkill:None)
Your flashes are quite good,so you have more knowledge then some "Scribbled Stuff Too"
Please keep up the good Work on flashes,and on reviews.

Sorry you didn't like Brawl Taunts, but please keep in mind that we didn't expect in the least for it to get on the front page, or even get anywhere near the score it did. It was just some voice stuff I threw together and wanted some animation to go along with it in order to add to the audio. Neither of us thought it would get anywhere near as big as it did, and certainly weren't trying to take anything away from "quality submissions".

I know this is your blog and you can say whatever you want, but I just wanted to throw that out there.

-Rina

Haha, I knew you had it in for me ever since that guitar hero vid. I know we already had a pm exchange on the matter but gimme a break. The score is 3.93, I wouldn't call that drastically overrated. And yeah I got front page and it had a lot of views, but guess what, people like Guitar Hero. I didn't cherry pick the subject for popularity's sake, I picked it cause I play the game (or did, at least) a lot. As far as I can see your only criticism is that videos are easier to make than animations. That's true in general, but a video can still take plenty of time and effort to put together.

Oh, yeah I hadn't thought about that, that previously top scores would today be insignificant. That really is a shame.

I guess that also means the treasure hunts will pick up even better overlooked pieces too. Still, its too bad.

I wasn't taking it personally---I was just explaining my side of the story.
I WAS trying to appeal to Brawl fans to an extent, but also, most of the stuff in there was just things my friends and I came up with while playing the game. I guess a lot of us still have an immature sense of humor, or something.

It's fine, I understand where you're coming from. I suppose I would feel that way if video started to become more of a dominant force here. Naturally, featuring videos on the front page is only encouragement for others to submit theirs.. but there still has to be a quality threshold. As long as people aren't simply v-blogging and uploading it, or similar activities, I don't think it's that big of an issue. But we'll see I suppose.

How would you feel about a video based on the escape series? It would be a mix of video and flash, somewhat like *gasp* my newgrounds. The idea being that instead of actually playing an escape game you watch a real video of someone trapped in an escape situation, while that person interacts in a fictional way with the game environment itself. This is an idea I've had for a long time now and plan to do it sometime later this year.

[Conflicting Opinion]

Hey i'm going to make a mario parody (except he's in the GRAND THEFT AUTO WORLD ORIGINAL AMIRITE) so I can be super cool on the internet.

well, i wil rephrase this
well, i cant tell.i agree as well, that ng is on a state of ''problemz'' because of the popular stuff getting front, and original stuff not.(not getting fp)

while i support video games parody movies (heck, i wanted to make one)... i think it should aim on humour, like OUR MARIO, or TSAH 2, or 1, or orange box... or er halomen.. and kirby. yet, sprites are a low attempt on watching it. it doesnt have efforts, talkin about flash!

(now, IF.. sprites movie contains original sprites, and looks like a work with kick ass, humour.. and great style.. with art! well, then, i probably will like it. but i havent seen many of this type until last year)

SUMMARY: we need originallity in ng sumbissions.